NOTE: This interview was sabotaged before we even started and continued through the podcast. First, in trying to call Ramola's regular cell phone, I got a recording stating that “This call cannot be completed as dialed. Please try again.” So I did, at least 3 more times. Her number had always worked before, where I got either a direct answer from Ramola, or voice mail.
So, I e-mailed her to let her know and she called me back immediately.
Then, there was an echo on my end of the line during the entire podcast, which was distracting, to say the least. The 'echo chamber' is a typical tactic used on me for many years, especially on radio broadcasts or calls with certain persons, discussing certain issues.
The podcast was later cut off entirely and Ramola had to set up another time and then had to splice together the pieces.
Again, I apologize to the listeners for the quality of the recording due to severe allergies.
We agreed that we will do a PART 3, because there is so much more material to cover.
April 20, 2018
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#64: Barbara Hartwell, CIA Whistleblower Reports COINTELPRO Crimes &
Ted Gunderson's Role
In this revelatory and thought-provoking conversation, Barbara Hartwell, CIA whistleblower who is attesting to a long-term program of illegitimate and wrongful targeting, surveillance, and abusive energy weapon use by the FBI/CIA on her person, discusses the lengths to which these secretive Intelligence agencies will go in order to “neutralize” anyone they decide to target for whatever reason.
The effects are felt even by those who tangentially enter the target's life, she illustrates, as for instance the FAA official who proffered information on the military fighter jet breaking sound barriers over her New York home when she called in to ask about it, and was almost immediately transferred to California, across the country from New York.
Those who whistleblow or refuse to participate in propaganda creation for the secret agencies often face retaliation and defamation. Describing at length the articles active and archived on her website, Ms. Hartwell notes that she stopped publishing her email address some years ago after receiving inordinate amounts of hate mail, and suffered slanderous takedown attacks online from various quarters, but emphasized she can indeed still be contacted by anyone through her PO box and mailing address.
Offering insights both historic and contemporary into COINTELPRO, the repressive and stealthy Counterintelligence program started by J. Edgar Hoover in 1956, and unleashed on Civil Rights activists like Martin Luther King and others, she discusses especially Ted Gunderson, the high-ranking FBI official who stopped short of becoming Director, and who ran the COINTELPRO program with Hoover and was surely familiar with its nefarious Modus Operandi.
Intent to offer information about Gunderson from her knowledge of him, her initial friendship and working collegiate relationship with him, as well as her later investigative research, she reveals the part played by Gunderson in illegal arms deals, and speaks about his role in covering up for child traffickers and pedophiles such as John de Camp who wrote The Franklin Cover-up, as well as in running “black propaganda” or a campaign of lies on targets, and in himself running the COINTELPRO programs of organized stalking he reveals as criminal in his well-known affidavit of 2011.
In partially revealing truths about COINTELPRO, what Gunderson and others were running, she notes, were containment operations, whereby larger parts of the operation were kept concealed. The odd story of the brief marriage Ted Gunderson had with Diana Rively the ex-wife of Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, which both parties spoke to Barbara about, but which Ted denied later as a marriage, is also aired.
In addition, Barbara Hartwell reads out excerpts and statements from Geral Sosbee, ex-FBI, who attests that Ted Gunderson was Inspector at FBI when Mr. Sosbee himself was being forced out of the Bureau for essentially questioning a wrongful arrest; at the time, Gunderson did not do anything about it, nor did he help Geral as the FBI began a 3-decade long persecution of this conscientious whistleblower.
Geral also provides further testimonial to the absolute viciousness of those FBI operatives and minions who blindly follow the pack, going so far as to kill, relating how a young woman tenant of his, Jane Hatley, was killed by toxic gassing, in an untimely assassination surely intended for himself.
Like Barbara, Geral too is a high-profile and highly important whistleblower, who has been coming under focused retaliatory attack taking down his life and career over a long period of years. Especially notable in the accounts of retaliation leveled at both Barbara and Geral is that the persecution has been excessive, with both being driven out of their homes, overtly surveilled and provoked in public, assaulted with directed-energy weapons, and handed death threats, a few of which Barbara shares.
This conversation was attacked both before, and during, and after the recording, with phones being made inoperative at the start and audio tracks being messed with at the end. We were bumped right out of the meeting by the phantom spook who had apparently been a silent eavesdropper throughout, his ire revved at mere mention of the symptoms of Gulf War Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome being identical to the “bio-effects” of targeting with energy weapons. A small part of the video is out of sync with the audio after on-air interference and hacking, but the audio recording throughout has been preserved.
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